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(14 replies, posted in General)

Yes, this worked Joan. Thanks for that. I was certainly confused and had changed the frame rate in both.

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(14 replies, posted in General)

I think I have found a small bug in the linear kinematics tool when using a high-speed camera recording. I have recorded at 120 fps and manually change the video timing to reflect this. Then I track something (e.g. someone running) - the calculations of velocity are correct, but the x-axis (time) of the plot doesn't seem to be adjusted for the high speed setting (the time is 4 times that indicated in playback window).

PS. I love this new tool - we are planning on using it in our university teaching. Thanks for the great innovations.

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(2 replies, posted in Ideas and feature requests)

I think a relatively flexible option that allows you to add or delete things is probably best. As long as the key features are output then users can do what they like and even make their own processes for generating their own templates. I understand that the drawing bits may provide the most difficulty, in terms of outputing these as objects instead of painting them on... but the painting option would be a good starting point even if the quality is reduced.

I'm happy to mock up a few ideas of what an output might like look like in ODF or similar if this helps.

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(2 replies, posted in Ideas and feature requests)

To start, I think that the latest improvements to Kinovea are superb. It is a testament to Joan and other contributors. I wish I could find time to do more to assist in the process.

I have a possible suggestion regarding potential outputs. At the present there are nice output formats in XHTML, MS_XML and ODF. These are useful for those of us who like to make meaningful measures (for example velocities, graphs of position etc). These can be implemented relatively easily using macros or other underlying code. However these outputs are numerical and don't provide much in the way of visual information.

For reporting purposes it is sometimes also nice to just have the key images output as well as any other information from those key images (mainly the comments and any particular measures). This can be used as a report without the need for having prior knowledge of how to use Kinovea or the need to actually have the video for reporting. At the present, it is of course possible to export key images as individual frames in a slideshow or as separate files, but you lose the information that might be valuable for reporting purposes.

Would it be conceivable that the ODF or XHTML formats might be able to have the keyframe images (including any measurements) and comments exported to them? This would be especially nice for sharing data with, for instance athletes, other coaches, clients etc. If it was in the XHTML format then this could be shared within web based applications.

I look forward to hearing other users views on this.

Glen

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(10 replies, posted in Bug reports)

I have also uploaded my results which sound very similar. Thanks for all of you hard work Joan!

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(10 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Joan, I am also having problems with the export to excel function. When I first try to export (without saving the key image data to the .kva file) I get zeros in the x and y coordinates, as was the Willfig's problem. When I then save the key image data and try and re-export the data to the excel xml file, the file contains nothing at all.

I can see the data in the KVA file, but as Willfig points out, it is generally much easier to to export to the Excel format.

I am using 0.8.11.

Also, is it possible to have any comments exported? I am guessing this is difficult because of the formatting etc

Thanks Joan.

My point was that if the video can be played in VLC or Kinovea, then it should also be able to be played in other media players without having to download the codecs. I realise this a problem with the media players and not Kinovea! Perhaps the codecs should be installed automatically when Kinovea is installed... or does this have some licensing issues?

Thanks again, Glen

I haven't been able to get videos saved as AVI to play in Windows Media Player. VLC Media has no problems, however it would be good if there was an easy way for people to play these videos on Windows Media Player, Quicktime etc without having to go in and install codecs which are obviously already on the computer somewhere.

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(6 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Thanks for the response Joan. I like the idea of of the dragable box, I think that this would be best done as one dragable point which scales the box. Another option that might work is that if the mouse button is held down for a period and dragged out then this would allow the size of the box to be set from the outset. If a normal quick click is used it would then go to the default value. Does this make sense?

The angle option would be great, I look forward to its implementation.

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(6 replies, posted in Bug reports)

I am trying to track the path of multiple markers attached a body. Unfortunately the markers are the same colour and look very similar, therefore when two markers are within the bounds of the tracking rectangle, they often get mixed up and there is a jump from a marker in one frame to the different marker in the next frame. Is there a way of adjusting the bounds that tracking algorithm searches in to prevent this from happening?

Also, would it be possible to add a feature which calculates the angle between three points. This might be embedded in the angle tool, so that the three points which define the angle can all be tracked at once. Just a thought.