1,666

(6 replies, posted in General)

I did not realize that Wine was supporting the .NET Framework…
I'll also try to experiment with that when time permits.
Thanks for the initiative ! Keep us posted if you make some progress smile

1,667

(7 replies, posted in General)

Hi,
It is on the suggestion list smile
One other request was to be able to rotate by 90°. Technically I think it will be the same complexity to code the rotation by arbitrary angle like you suggest or by fixed 90° steps.

The end result might be of slightly less quality than the original because for arbitrary angle we will need to interpolate the pixel values.
For the user interface, I was thinking of a new dialog box where you can change the angle with a slider and validate. (Other ideas welcome)
Bug m181 will also need to be fixed during the implementation of this function.

This will not be part of the next official release, maybe in the one after, depending on other prioritized stuff.

1,668

(2 replies, posted in Français)

Bonjour,
Le tracking qui est actuellement dans la version de développement est meilleur en termes de qualité et de vitesse de traitement. (bien meilleur à mon avis mais je vous laisserai juger smile)

Le chiffre correspond à une donnée interne de l'algo, c'est le coefficient de corrélation entre la zone de l'objet (rectangle interne) de l'image précédente et celle de l'image courante. En gros cela mesure la réussite du tracking pour l'image en cours. La valeur va de +1 à -1, mais si elle descend sous le seuil de +0.5, on estime qu'il n'y a pas de "match" et le tracking est abandonné.
Le rectangle externe correspond à la zone de recherche. (ce sera mieux expliqué dans le guide d'utilisation qui est en cours de rédaction smile)

1,669

(4 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Ok, thanks. That corresponds to the bug I was mentionning. The French locale was loaded by default instead of relying on system's.
This should be fixed in the next version.

1,670

(4 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Hi,

There is only one version, it has all the languages packed in.
The program first tries to detect if your system language is supported. If not, it should fall back to English.
However there might have been a bug that would make it fall back to French instead.

- Could you write here what the first menu is ("Fichier", "Tiedosto", something else ?)
- To change language, go to the second menu starting from the right, then first submenu.

Are you on an English Windows ?

1,671

(6 replies, posted in General)

Hi,
No, it is not currently possible.

It was necessary to improve the tracking performance and robustness before implementing multi-point tracking.
It is planned as a future improvement though.

1,672

(1 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Hi,
I hope someone can come and answer this better than me because I have not much experience with AVCHD, and I don't do a lot of conversions.

If you are not much concerned with storage size, you can use the highest quality option available in your conversion software.

Regarding blurriness/quality, bitrate is not as much relevant as the compression method used, because most of the time is spend decoding the image. This is especially true for large image size like full HD.
For a given codec and image size, you can use a higher bitrate. That should improve quality without degrading rendering speed. (You could use uncompressed files).

Regarding jerkiness, this will really depends on the machine performances and you'll have to make tests to find your threshold.
If you see the speed slider decreasing on its own, then the program can't keep the pace.
I would target for 25 or 30 fps, and then reduce size until it plays smoothly if you have jerkiness issues or automatic slow down.

Also, if possible try to use an intra-frame only codec (like DV or MJPEG) since that will make the backward navigation easier and decoding faster.

1,673

(1 replies, posted in Français)

Bonjour,

Pour que les menus soient activés, la video doit être en mode analyse: les images décompressées en mémoire.
Ce mode se déclenche tout seul quand la zone de travail est suffisamment courte, la valeur par défaut étant 12 secondes.

D'autres infos sont dispo dans l'aide aux chapitres Preferences et Explorer la technique.

Note: dans les nouvelles versions (0.8.0 et supérieures) la fonction miroir est disponible tout le temps.

1,674

(8 replies, posted in General)

Thanks guys big_smile

"Image sequence" is sort of taken by the image export tool when saving multiple images at regular intervals.

I really like "Overview" smile
I wonder if it would be clear enough alone, considering it's under the Motion menu. (So it would read Motion > Overview)

Multiple View sounds good too, but somehow slighltly less characteristic of the function ? (I fear users might mix it up with the two screen mode for video comparison)

1,675

(12 replies, posted in General)

Hi,
Thanks for the follow-up on the drag and drop and for the bug report.

I reproduce it too. It'll be known as bug m177.

1,676

(8 replies, posted in General)

First, the result of the function to rename in case you are not familiar with it :
It takes the working zone and creates a composite image out of it.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8015/mosaic300.jpg

I guess "Mosaic" is a suboptimal name for this function…
- It doesn't really speak for itself…
- In recent years, the term has come to mean something else entirely: an image created from thousands of smaller images, each one acting as a pixel in the final composite.
- It recently came to my attention that a proprietary sport analysis package was using the term "Mosaic" for one of its function somewhat similar in concept than Kinovea's Mosaic. The company behind the package has an history of patenting and trademarking things, so I think it would be best to use a different name.

Naming a function is pretty hard, please put your ideas in the hat, comment on suggestions, etc.
- Should convey the idea of multiple images and/or of video summarization.
- Should be short enough (one / two words).
- Chronophotography is reserved for a future function.

Existing suggestions:
- Video Summary or Image Summary or Summary
- Synopsis
- Kinorama
- Composite

Thanks for your help big_smile

The discussion goes on over this thread: The tagging option... When ?

1,678

(3 replies, posted in General)

Hi,
Just to clear some things up,

Tagging is what really makes competitors' software powerful.

This is not a competition. There's no "market share" to loose or win.
There is just several softwares that happen to cover overlapping fields. Nothing prevents you from using them all.

Sports researchers and professional coaches need to tag behavour and events in the time line.

Agreed.

It's a huge mistake to override tagging options.

They are not overlooked, it's just a matter of prioritization.

There is a massive ammount of work to be done (Camcorder capture, audio, improved drawing tools, better measurement tools, better comparison tools, publishing framework, motion summarization and extraction, etc.)

Notational analysis is one of them. Your message is a +1 vote for it in the prioritization queue. Others may have different needs / views. smile

dartfish s full of stupid features, which nobody uses, like stromotion

Now that's a statement. I, on the contrary, think that this type of motion summarization is an invaluable tool for motion analysis.
(By the way, there are people ready to afford the price tag just to get this feature.)

Even if u are not interested in tactical analysis nor in behavoural studies

I am. If I had to use it for a project right now, I'd use LongoMatch software as linked above.

And if I found it to be lacking in some departments, then I would go on their forum and suggest improvements, give feedback, etc. As I said, nothing prevents you from using several programs. Especially when some of them are provided at no cost. wink

I certainly hope that one day there will be a fully fledged notational analysis module in Kinovea, but I also know it's not going to happen soon.

tagging visual-technical observations or events in the video clips is what really makes sense in the use of a video management system.

Well, I don't view Kinovea as a video management system, but more as a motion analysis tool. It makes a big difference.
Managing the whole user's video collection is a nice goal, but not ours. Kinovea might just be one piece in your toolchain.
You can complement it with some file level manager on one end, and maybe a CD burner on the other for exemple.

I also think that focusing on playback and analysis will make for a more lightweight and easy-to-use program in the end.

Thanks

1,679

(12 replies, posted in General)

Well, I had the same experience when it happened to me, it solved itself up. sad

The access to this menu is under evaluation… Image > Edges Only…
(you must be under analysis mode, i.e. frames extracted to memory, to be able to try it).


I have a feeling that nobody is actually using it, is it justified ?
Removing it would slightly simplify the Image menu (anticipating on the addition of some other menus that'll come later on).

So if you ever used it or think it'll be useful at some point, have your say now ! Otherwise, we'll just say good bye to it.
(The initial idea of this function was to better see the motion taking place but it's not very convincing…)