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Hmm... that's an ugly bug.
I experienced it once, but I couldn't reproduce it.
Can you write down:
- the image size of the video (right click + properties + summary tab)
- your screen resolution
- is the image filling the player screen or can you see black background all around ?
- what happens when you double click the image after you laid down the line (does it move by itself ? does saving works ?).
thanks
Hi, and thanks for the feedback.
What would be fantastic is if you can express which sounds the most important to you, then the second most important, etc...
ie: 3, 2, 11, 5, etc.
Some of those functions will only be available in the long run, so it may be a good thing to have the absolutely necessary functions implemented first.
You can use VirtualDub to apply a deinterlacing filter to the video.
I think it may interest other people, so I just wrote a whole topic on one possible method to give it more exposure.
Deinterlacing videos
You have interlaced video when you can see the annoying scan lines artifacts.
For sports with great dynamics, it can quickly become a huge problem :
Hopefully one day the function will be implemented directly in Kinovea...
In the meantime, you can use VirtualDub and apply a deinterlacing filter on the videos. There are more advanced methods, but I find this one simple and efficient enough for my needs.
VirtualDub is an awesome open source tool for simple and fast video editing, you can download current version here: http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/
1. Convert to .mpg or .avi if needed. (VirtualDub will only accept those formats.)
- If the file plays fine in Kinovea (except for the interlacing artifacts of course), you can try to save it back to AVI. (File => Save video or Key Images Data)
- Otherwise this depends on the format you're starting with. Your camcorder software suite may provide a tool to perform the conversion.
- For JVC .mod files, apparently you can simply rename them to .mpg. This will avoid loosing quality during the saving process.
2. Deinterlace
- Open your video in VirtualDub. Go to Video => Filters, click Add, choose the deinterlace line and OK.
- You use the "Blend Fields together" option choosen for a smoothing of the artifact.
- If you have a massive shift of an object between the half frames like in the above picture, you may want to try the "Duplicate Field 1" option.
- The right hand panel of VirtualDub should now have the deinterlaced video. (Left hand panel has your original video).
3. Reencode
- Click Video => Compression.
- Choose your preferred codec for reencoding. (I'd use XviD) This step depends on the video codecs installed on your computer.
- Do the same for audio if you want. (Audio => Compression) or choose No Audio.
- Choose File => Save as AVI and save to a new file.
You should now have a deinterlaced version of your video.
The best option is always to use the progressive mode of your camcorder if it has one.
Please report any issue in the comments.
Hi Mike,
For the first problem, it sounds a lot like you are experiencing interlacing.
The video is being recorded interlaced, each frame has only half the scan lines: one frame will have even lines and next frame will have odd lines. Symptom : the motion seem to zigzag.
Interlacing is not a problem while the video doesn't have very fast motions and is played back at normal speed (the eye and the brain does the deinterlacing).
For sport in slow motion, it can quicly become a huge problem.
See if your camera has a progressive mode to record video. (all lines on each frame)
I'll also see how hard it would be to implement deinterlacing directly in the software. It is causing problem in a lot of scenarios and I believe it will be a must have.
The second problem, file not displayed in the explorer control, is probably simply caused by the file extension not registered here.
This is a 3 seconds fix, just tell me what the file extension is, I'll add it to the list.
Hi all,
There will be a version 0.7.x with some new drawing tools.
(trajectory, chronometer, magnifier, etc)
The version after that will be a bigger construction work, with important functions on the way to have a complete and comprehensive tool.
Following is a non-exhaustive list of possible topics. You are invited to extract your top priorities, or even add your own :
1. DV Capture, recording in live.
2. Sound playback.
3. Special effects for analysis. (Kinograms, superposition, motion extraction, etc)
4. Smoothed slow motion (image interpolation, needs .3)
5. Image stabilizer.
6. Image rotation.
7. External data overlayed on the image. (strength platform, pulse)
8. Specific functions for when the two videos are actually different views of the same scene.
9. Favorites folders, categories / search.
10. A System to index small sequences in a longer video.
11. A match sheet, or notes sheet, with customizable fields.
12. Drawings that persists over several frames.
...
The next update will probably be out in late october...
It will contains new drawing tools (Ok, ok, you can see an incredibly low quality demo video here for one of them 
)
I will send an update mail to anyone that has registered on the 'download' page.
As for future updates, there are plans and prioritization needs to be made.
To that end, I'll add a new topic like I did in the french forum, so you guys can express your top priorities.
Hopefully as the project gains momentum other developpers will eventually become interested in contributing and things will move faster.
Apparently the problem reappeared...
I have set up a dowload mirror for the installer here :
J'ai mis en place un mirroir de l'exécutable d'installation sur un autre site ici :
Kinovea.Setup.0.7.2.exe
Merci de réessayer et d'indiquer si cela résout le problème...
Bonjour,
Il y a eu récemment des soucis avec l'hébergement et je pense que c'est probablement encore le cas...
Le fichier commence à arriver et la connexion est rompue brutalement sans qu'on soit notifié du problème...
Le fichier complet doit faire environ 10.5Mo est-ce bien le cas chez vous ?
Je mettrai un site mirroir en place ce soir en rentrant.
@jlf: effectivement les dessins sont associés à une image particulière et une seule.
Le concept était de mettre en évidence une position, un alignement, sur un cliché instantané.
En attendant mieux un bricolage consiste à par exemple reporter systématiquement les dessins d'une image clé dans l'image suivante. (ajout du dessin puis touche F7). Ou si le scénario est pour comparer une position d'une image à l'autre, d'importer les dessins de l'image d'origine dans l'image cible (avec l'avant dernier bouton de la barre d'outil de dessins).
J'ai rajouté la suggestion de fonction dans la liste ci-dessus.
Bonjour à tous
Il y aura tout d'abord une autre version 0.7.x avec quelques ajouts au niveau des outils de dessin.
(trajectoire, chrono, loupe, etc.)
La version suivante sera un assez gros chantier, avec j'espère l'implémentation de fonctions importantes permettant d'obtenir un outil de plus en plus complet.
Voici une liste non exhaustive de thèmes possibles, vous êtes invités à nouveau à les trier par ordre de préférence ou à en ajouter d'autres :
1. Capture DV, enregistrement live.
2. Support du son.
3. Effets spéciaux pour l'analyse. (Kinogrammes, Superposition, Extraction du mouvement, etc.)
4. Ralentit fluidifié (interpolation d'images, nécessite .3)
5. Stabilisateur d'image.
6. Rotation de la vidéo.
7. Visualisation de données externes en sur-impression (cardio-fréquencemètre, plateforme de force)
8. Fonctions spécifiques pour le cas où les deux vidéos sont deux vues d'une même scène.
9. Dossiers favoris, catégories et/ou recherche.
10. Système pour indexer les petites séquences à l'intérieur d'une longue vidéo.
11. Système de feuille de match ou de fiche de description avec champs personalisables.
12. Dessins persistants sur plusieurs images.
...
Bonjour et merci pour le commentaire
Un système de kinogramme est prévu, je ne sais pas trop à quelle échéance...
Pour l'instant, étant seul sur le code, il faut établir des priorités sur les fonctionnalités les plus courantes.
Je vais lancer un autre sujet sur ce thème, pour tenter de déterminer les besoins les plus fondamentaux à court terme.
Hi,
Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, I can see how changing the thickness is a missing simple functionnality...
Incidentally, changing the width of the lines or their endings is technically more or less the same.
Hence we'll have "style pickers" somewhere, looking roughly like this :
I hope this will cover most needs.
About the circle tool, I'll see how we could squeeze it in... Initially I wanted to have a limited number of fundamental tools, not to crowd the interface... (crowding occur when you have two videos loaded on a small screen...)
Maybe we could have a multipurpose 'custom shape' tool ?
It would start as a circle or a rectangle, and then one could change the shape on the fly, choosing between a set of predefined shapes or maybe even a system to import your own...
I'll have to think this over. (ideas welcomed)
There seems to be a problem indeed...
Try the direct link here :
Kinovea.Setup.0.7.2.exe
edit: the problem appears to be coming from the host server configuration... I'll try to see what I can do tomorow.
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