Excellent idea Joan. If I understand you, this type of tool is available in a product called V1Home. Basically, you mark sequential points and an arc line is constructed from it.

If you need it, I can produce a video demo of it.

joan wrote:
coachmattb wrote:

I notice that which USB port I plug into first makes the difference. Took quite a while thru the trial and error process but persistence pays off!

Maybe it has to do with the USB root hubs vs normal? I seem to remember that some USB ports are more important than others. In the device manager, you can see some are "root" while others aren't.

Maybe if you connect the two cameras on ports that ultimately go to the same USB root hub, it won't work as the driver will be loaded only once and detect that two cameras are plugged. But maybe if they are connected to two different root hub the driver is loaded twice and both work independently… (?)

my guess is this is exactly correct, Joan. glad it is as it enables the two hi fps webcams to work together.

Just plugged them into the usb ports as I had previously described. you can then select the frame rate under the properties tab after you do "select source". The nice thing about that frame rate is there is no blurring of the replay as there would be if it were the standard 30fps.

I notice that which USB port I plug into first makes the difference. Took quite a while thru the trial and error process but persistence pays off!

I have 2 ($35) webcams shooting 2 angles at 125 fps. Wow!!!

I had seen thread(s) on this and to the best of my knowledge, nobody has been able to get 2 of the same type of video capture source to perform 2 capture screens successfully. I happened to stumble through a way to make this work on a very outdated laptop.  First, the laptop:

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (build 2600)
Dell Inc. Inspiron 1520
2.20 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)
Not hyper-threaded        
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Dell Inc. A09 07/11/2008      
Drives:   
500.11 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
464.09 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
3582 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Now, for what I did and most importantly, how I did it as the procedure seems to be important since there was no other sequence of plugging in and disconnecting that seems to work.

1) start Kinovea
2) plug in1 PS3eye camera to a USB port
3) from the "View" tab, select "Two capture screens"
4) on the left capture screen, under Select Source, choose  "PS3Eye camera" (the camera s view becomes active)
5) plug in the 2nd PS3Eye camera into another usb port
6) on the right capture screen, under Select Source, choose "PS3Eye camera" (the camera s view becomes active)

from this point, I was able to record simultaneously on both cameras.

I tried other ways of connecting and disconnecting the cameras but had no luck making it work.

I would be interested in knowing if such procedures would work with 2 identical camcorders as well.

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hi joan.

this was with 8.15.

so do you think dual screen capture is better with 8.16?

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ok here's an observation from yesterday's dual capture session.

on the left capture screen i am using a ps3eye webcam. on the right, a generic webcam that came with the laptop which is configured as follows:

Windows XP pro
version 2002 service pack 3 (all updates applied)
Intel Core 2 Due
t7500@ 2.2 ghz
789 mhz 3.5 gb ram
500 gb hd  7200 rpm
430 gb free

first did side and front video shot and then synched the result and made composite to avi file. everything worked fine.

next, repeated and wrote to MKV files. on playback, the video on the right capture screen played back at very fast speed and came out that way in the synched composite video.

next repeated and wrote to MP4 files. same results as previous.

re did the 1st side by side capture to  avi files and this time, the right screen played back faster.

i notice that when recording, the fps number in the parenthesis for the webcam on the right screen, is not at the fps that the properties value shows for the particular device. in my opinion it appears that internal resources are dedicated to the left most screen and the second screen gets whatever the software can give it. (of course I am guessing.)

so, the first recording and composite generation work fine but subsequent redo (albeit to a different output file type) had speed up issues on playback.

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is dual capture better in 8.15 or 8.16?

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How does the allocation of memory size in the Capture tab affect this? Since I do quite a bit of Capture, should I set this as high as possible?

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Thank you, Joan.

What do you think of my observation on how the capturing response seemed to slow down as I did more and more files? Outside of deleting previously created files, is there something with memory usage that might be slowing the software down? Are there temporary files being written somewher that I should delete?

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I am an athletic coach that uses Kinovea with my students to enhance performance via video capture and review. (am using 8.15 w/ Win XP)  During a session with one of my students, I was making extensive use of the 2 capture screen capability to watch a movement via 2 angles being captured by 1) a camcorder with firewire connection and 2) a PS3Eye webcam utilizing USB. The student would perform 4 or 5 reps of the movement while watching himself on the capture screens. We would then stop and watch the recorded video. I noticed after about a half an hour of this that the live video capture was several seconds late with showing the movement on the screen. Also, when playing the later video back, it would change speeds (usually being too fast) when compared to real time. I have gone thru a few of the older posts on this subject and see others have had similar situations. My question is this:

what are the controlling factors in keeping the capture and subsequent playback as “fresh” (or real time) as possible?

Are there memory/space buffers that I can clear when I get into a session such as previously mentioned? If so, how would I do this? Also, I noticed that performance of both of the aforementioned recording devices was better when I had the camcorder as the first capture screen and the PS3Eye as the second capture screen.

Many thanks in advance for any feedback and many thanks to Joan for all the work done on a terrific product!

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Thanks, Joan. Along those lines, I have added an idea to the idea backlog that when doing 2 screen captures, the output file designation number for screen capture 2 could be +1 from screen capture 1.

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... the ability to begin recording each capture at the same time. (single start and stop for record of two screens)

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Hi Joan :-)

The MP4 s play fine in Windows Media Player. I am using latest QT.

Thanks!

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I have been creating MP4 videos using "Save video as" and notice they will not play in QuickTime. When trying to open an MP4 created by the software I receive a message stating "Error -2010. File contains invalid data.".