dcapps wrote:

When will the version with the fix be available ?

I'll try to get it out for august 10th but I can't promise anything.

dcapps wrote:

would it be useful to have a MOD file that is straight from the camera ?

Yes, if you can, the more file type I can test with, the more chances to fully understand the problem.
Do the files coming straight from the camera crashes too ?
I just downloaded SDCopy, I'll experiment with it when time permits.

Thanks.

1,787

(7 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Well, even if you have a workaround, I'm still interested in understanding what is happening.
So, if you have sometime, please consider trying a few scenarios to better see when it is happening and when it is not.
For something as critical as unexpected folder/files deletion, we must find what is responsible and report to them.

1,788

(7 replies, posted in Bug reports)

First, backup whatever is on your camera that is important. I don't know how the file disappear but you don't want to risk loosing them.
Then the goal will be to reproduce the problem in a controlled manner.

When you try to reproduce it, note every action you do, like renaming, playing, saving, etc.
When you have reproduced it, report the details of your actions and attach the log file. (it will also contain a list of actions and functions called.)
You can do that either by mail: joan at kinovea dot org. or directly on the issue tracker, where I have created an entry for the problem here: m138.

When I better understand what the scenario is, I will try to reproduce the issue on my machine.
Thanks.

1,789

(7 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Wow, this is very critical sad, but I really can't see any operation that would delete files or folders.
The only thing I can think of is when you rename a file from the thumbnail pane to a file name that already exist.

Hopefully we can work it out and find the cause of the defect.
First, if possible, I would like you to enable logging.
You do that by editing the file "LogConf.xml" in the program's folder and change the line "<level value="INFO"/>" to "<level value="DEBUG"/>".

You will then have a more verbose log file in the Application data folder on XP it is at: 
C:\Documents and Settings\[your windows user name here]\Application Data\Kinovea\log.txt
("Application Data" may be a hidden folder)

What system are you on ? (XP, Vista, 32 bits, 64 bits ?)

1,790

(7 replies, posted in Bug reports)

Hi,

Can you expand a bit about what you mean by vanishing ?
Do they disappear from the explorer tree pane, the shortcut pane, the thumbnails pane, your hard drive ?

Thanks.

Hi, a quick follow up.

Analysis:
- As stated, the file crahes on Vista (and on Windows 7 too by the way) but not on XP.
- The file is anamorphic (the image size is 704×576 which translates to 11×9 whereas the asked ratio for display is 16×9.) but this should be otherwise supported.
- The problem only occurs for these file type, other anamorphic files tested are OK under Vista and 7.
- The problem doesn't occur if we discard the fact that it's anamorphic and simply load it as 704×576.

Root cause:
- Unknown at this point. Given the above, the issue may be in the ffmpeg library (file formats and codecs) which I honestly rather use as a black box.

Fix:
- Not a fix per se, but a workaround. When the first reading fails and we detect that we are in anamorphic mode, we discard this and re-read back in normal mode.

What this means is that it shouldn't crash anymore, but the video will look stretched vertically.
This workaround will be available in the next experimental version.

Hi,
I have added the issue to the bug tracker here.
It would be great if you could send a small sample file so I can try and understand the issue by reproducing it locally. (to joan at kinovea dot org, under 3MB in size please).

Thanks for your testing on various system, it will certainly help the diagnosis.

Edit:Sample received, thanks.

1,793

(15 replies, posted in Français)

Ah, je comprend, tu voudrais que les coordonnées tiennent compte de la perspective…
Non ce n'est pas possible dans l'état actuel des choses, la mesure de distance et les coordonnées de trajectoires sont limitées à de la 2D pure.
Tous les points mesurés doivent être rigoureusement sur un même plan perpendiculaire à la caméra.

Pour du positionnement des joueurs sur un terrain de tennis, j'imagine que cela ne serait possible qu'en vue aérienne perpendiculaire…

Update on 2009 july 24th.


Removed from list because included in latest experimental release (0.8.0)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Explorer) New tab with shortcuts folders.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Explorer) Being able to rename files from thumbnails view.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Explorer) Being able to delete files from thumbnails view.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Playback) CTRL+Up and CTRL+Down to increment or decrement speed by 25% steps.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Playback) New timecode format: "Time + image number".
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Playback) A summary mode presenting a video as a collection of thumbnails
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Key images) Being able to hide more permanently the key image zone.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Key images) Un-coupling the handling of title and timecode update in thumbnails.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Key images) Being able to update the key image title without going to the comment window.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Drawings) Line length tool.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Chronometers) Countdown.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Visualization) OpenOffice calc bridge.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Visualization) MS-Excel bridge.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Visualization) Web browser bridge.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/accept.png - (Publishing) Simple Kinogram in a composite image.

Added :
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - (General) Being able to launch the program from command line with switches.

Note:
I want to keep this thread clear and easy to read. If I missed something, please create a new dedicated thread where we will be able to discuss the specific suggestion.

In order to discuss those suggestions that currently have little chances of being integrated or to state your mind about the ones that aren't clear yet, please also create a new thread so it's easier to manage.

Thanks !

UPDATE
The ideas / suggestions are now managed in the idea backlog here : www.kinovea.org/ideas.
You can vote for your favorites and keep track of their status there.

The list below will not be updated anymore.

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(Last update: 24 May 2011)

Keys
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png : Will be supported in a future version
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png : Being evaluated
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png : Will not be supported

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Playback
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Image rotation by 90°, 180°, 270°.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Arbitrary image rotation
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Full screen mode with only playback and drawing controls
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Being able to fastforward more than 200% when using high-speed camera footage, to go back to normal speed.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Being able to specify a different playback speed between key images
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Display key image markers in working zone bar in addition to navigation bar

Key images
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Display of the drawings, chronos, path, within the key images thumbnails
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Textual list of key images
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Keyboard shortcuts to insert key images with predefined titles

Drawings
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Keyboard shortcut to select a drawing tool
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Pencil tool : Snap to straight line with Shift key modifier
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Line tool : Snap to horizontal / vertical lines with Shift key modifier
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Circle tool and rectangle tool
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Spotlight tool
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Handling pen pressure for graphic tablets
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Snap image tool to borders
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Wireframe character / biomechanical model placed over the image (19 points system or other models)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - A Preference to tell the line tool to stay alive when changing frames
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Snap image tool to borders
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Drawings that are visible from a given image until the end of the video
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Visual indication when the mouse is over a drawing
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Cursor options other than the hand
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Copy and paste drawings from one frame to another
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Change cursor when on top of magnifier area
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Being able to specify the font family for angles and labels
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Measuring a line that would span over several images
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Font size picker for angle tool
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Text color picker for angle
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Text color picker for labels and stopwatches
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Triangle tool

Stopwatches
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Cadence tool to track the evolution of tempo in cyclic performances (running, swimming, cycling, etc.)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Indicator on the stopwatch graphic when passing a key image
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Stopwatch that can be reused for measuring multiple times
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Split times / lap times (Covered by Cadence tool)

Tracking paths
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - 3 point tracking (angle)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Being able to use another track as the origin of coordinates.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Autotracking spotlight tool
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Autotracking magnifier
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - 2 point tracking (line)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - More options in the line style picker

Grids
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Being able to measure length and angles on grids
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - A thumbnail displaying the aspect of the video under the perspective grid as if it were seen from above
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Being able to tie the grid position with key images, and morph between them
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Being able to tie the perspective grid with the classic grid

Image filters
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Edges only
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Color Invert
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Grayscale

Special effects
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Motion extraction (athlete agaist blank background)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Chronophotography (kinogram merged into a common reconstructed background)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Superposition (merging two videos into a common reconstructed background)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Wide angle (athlete integrated back onto all background information available)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Image stabilization
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Anonymizer (detect faces and apply a blur on them).
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Smooth slow motion

Data visualization
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Table display

Notational analysis
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Match sheet or description form with customizable and movable fields / controls
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - A system to index small sequences inside long videos

Synchronisation
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Create a video insert of one video on top of the other, retaining sync and navigation control. Possibly hide the original screen.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Support vertical alignement in dual export
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Send several images from one video to a single frame of the other video as observational references.
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - A button to lock tools while synchronising. Actions on one video are reported on the other
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Compensate for differing frame rates even during frame by frame operation
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - When blending is enabled, Dual Export to only create a single, blended video / image
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Dual Sequence export

Capture
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Various saving modes ( all manual, predefined time, using a buffer, etc)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - In dual capture, a common controls bar to start recording simultaneously
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Pre-roll recording
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Encoding profile picker
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Having more than 2 capture sources simultaneously

File import
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - DPA files (Dartfish Mediabook)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Files from podiatrics platforms
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Display data files in their own screen, so they can be time browsed, synchronized, overlaid on video
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Mixing several .kva files
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Audio support as input
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Possibility to load an image sequence as a video
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - storyboard / dartclip Dartfish files

Streaming data import
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Accelerometers data from smartphones
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Heart rate monitors
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Live import and superposition of data on current video

Saving
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Managing audio comments
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Concept of projects

Export for publishing
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_sun.png - Export to ODF presentation or ODF text document
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Being able to choose between several templates
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Export to Microsoft Word or PowerPoint formats

Export for Multimedia
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Flash player with video and key images
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - CD / DVD burning
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Silverlight player
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Flash player with the ability to edit drawings and comments

Workspace organization
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Being able to minimize screens without closing them
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Support for 4 playback screens
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Explorer tab with tagging system and categories of videos
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Explorer tab with file shortcuts (in addition to folders shortcuts)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_rain.png - Explorer tab with integrated file search

General
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Mono Version (Linux + Mac OS X)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Portable version (Usable from a USB drive)
http://www.kinovea.org/images/weather_cloudy.png - Support for remote controls

Mise à jour du Vendredi 24 juillet 2009. (Le post d'origine a été modifié en conséquence)

Retirés de la liste car inclus dans la dernière version expérimentale. (0.8.0)
big_smile - (Explorateur) Nouvel onglet avec dossiers favoris.
big_smile - (Explorateur) Possibilité de renommer les fichiers depuis la vue des miniatures.
big_smile - (Explorateur) Possibilité de supprimer les fichiers depuis la vue des miniatures.
big_smile - (Lecture) CTRL+Up et CTRL+Down pour modifier la vitesse par tranches de 25%.
big_smile - (Lecture) Nouveau format d'affichage temporel : "Temps + numéro image".
big_smile - (Lecture) Un mode "aperçu de la vidéo" qui présente un fichier sous la forme de plusieurs vignettes.
big_smile - (Images clés) Pouvoir masquer de façon plus permanente la zone des images clés.
big_smile - (Images clés) Séparer le traitement du titre et la mise à jour du temps dans les miniatures.
big_smile - (Images clés) Pouvoir mettre à jour le titre de l'image clé sans passer par la fenêtre de commentaire.
big_smile - (Dessins) Outil reglette/mesure de distance.
big_smile - (Chronomètres) Compte à rebours
big_smile - (Visualisation) Passerelle OpenOffice calc.
big_smile - (Visualisation) Passerelle MS-Excel.
big_smile - (Visualisation) Passerelle navigateurs web.
big_smile - (Publishing) Kinogramme basique dans une image composite.

Nouveau :
smile - (Général) Pouvoir lancer le programme en ligne de commande avec des switches.

Hi guys, thanks for adding your voices.

@lwoydziak: This feature has also been raised recently by someone else on the french part of the forum, so I'll add your vote to it.
I really don't know when I'll be able to work on it though.

@Mike: Yeah, sound support is definitely on the todo-list, eventhough I sort of fear the added complexity in the code.

I will now translate the "suggestion list" and put it up here in this forum, I'm long overdue.

1,799

(1 replies, posted in Français)

Intéressant wink

Je note le concept dans un coin, cela pourrait faire une méthode intéressante de visualisation de trajectoires de déplacement.
(En fait il y avait un truc dans ce goût là dans l'ancêtre de kinovea (versions 0.4 et inférieures) mais les silhouettes étaient pleines. Ici, avec juste le contour des silhouettes, on y voit beaucoup mieux.)

1,800

(15 replies, posted in Français)

Bonjour,

1- Peut-on calculer les coordonnées X et Y d'un sujet se déplaçant sur un plan?  Je n'ai pas reussi à obtenir un tableur excel avec X et Y toutes les images (0,04s)

Vous pouvez utiliser l'outil trajectoire pour spécifier la position sur chaque image.
Une fois les positions définies, utilisez le menu Fichier > Export Tableur. (Uniquement disponible dans la version de test 0.8.0).

La fonction d'export est encore en cours de construction, les coordonnées sont exprimées dans les unités internes de Kinovea, notemment:
- Les valeurs de X et Y sont en pixels.
- L'axe des X va de gauche à droite, l'axe des Y va de haut en bas. Le point d'origine est donc le coin en haut à gauche.
- Les valeurs de T sont en « timestamps » unité interne qui varie en fonction du profil d'encodage des vidéos.

À ce stade, pour récupérer des positions réelles, il vous faudra effectivement positionner des lignes de mesures (non étalonnées pour avoir la mesure en pixels) et faire ensuite vous-même la conversion pixels -> unité réelle dans le tableur.

J'en déduis une suggestion pour la suite: que les valeurs des positions exportées dans les tableurs tiennent compte de l'étalonnage ?