976

(22 replies, posted in General)

jonh wrote:

If I may, the only observation I have is that with profile tool and genu tool you can't stretch the limb lengths like you can on the bike fit for instance.

Yes, this was on purpose… The goal of these two tools was to be able to quickly add a reference posture on the side of the image.

The typical use case is for example a podiatrist, to quickly overlay a "genu flexum" shape with the knees bending inwards, and keep it along the video for reference. In this regards the shape is simpler if it doesn't stretch.

Since the new tools are described in XML, the possibilities are endless, so I tried to have a range of examples with various applications.

Creating the same tools with stretchable limbs is quite easy. I'll try to finish the tutorial on how to go about creating a simple tool.

Thanks for the report!

For the new features like goniometer, etc. It's normal because the name of the tool is inside the XML file describing the tool. Currently translation of the name is not supported. There is no easy way to have the system be very dynamic and have all translations for the tool names. Unless we put the translations directly inside the description files themselves, at least for the embedded tools…

Regarding the "Lock the working zone" button, the issue is just with Spanish, it's quite strange actually. I guess the French string has been copied for reference and hasn't been changed. The string for "unlock" also has a problem: "Dévérouiller los terminales de la zona de trabajo"
So we need translations for these two:

  • Lock the Working Zone Boundaries

  • Unlock the Working Zone Boundaries

Ok thanks for the test. Found the problem, the tool was using the "display" (possibly stretched or squeezed) coordinates to compute the length label.
Saving to video should have given same results as during playback though, I'll have to double check that.

edit: Actually saving to video is the one that was giving you the right measure. The others are subject to the problem since the image is likely stretched or squeezed.

It sounds like a bug in the calibration/image stretch adaptation. Can you confirm the bug happens also with the regular line tool used for calibration and not just with the new horizontal distance tool?

980

(11 replies, posted in General)

Yes you have to enter the color name manually for now. I'll see if we can get the color picker back.

981

(11 replies, posted in General)

test, test2

[color=red]test[/color], [color=#6CAF12]test2[/color]

It seems to work for me. I admit I don't remember how it was working before, there was a color picker?
I'll check for the highlight color.

But the settings are not always available when in video mode…

983

(11 replies, posted in General)

The CSS problem with IE9 should be fixed, as well as avatars.

Could someone clarify the Aperture Priority AE and Shutter Priority AE settings ?

If I understand correctly, the "Shutter Speed Priority AE" would let you set the shutter speed manually and then the camera would set the aperture automatically based on ambiant light. I think all the Casio EX-ZR* series have these settings. That would allow one to set the shutter speed manually on the newer models?

985

(11 replies, posted in General)

Yes, I noticed it. I sent you a mail with the message content to recreate it, sorry for the inconvenience.

986

(11 replies, posted in General)

Thanks for the report! I admit I haven't tested at all in IE…
I think we also lost the avatars on the forum… I'll have to check this out.

There are also probably a host of dead links here and there. Please anyone report the dead links here so I can fix them.

Regarding the forum, if you had special chars in your password like à, é, ø (and you should), it is possible that you'll need to reset your password next time you logout. It's not a security issue, it's just that the hash saved in the database used to be computed on the iso-8859-1 representation of your password, and now it's using utf-8. (ok, that explanation was probably not asked for, sorry).

987

(11 replies, posted in General)

Hello,

Instead of jumping right into coding the next features, I will be doing an iteration to improve Kinovea website.

So far my goals are to:
- Simplify the landing page to the max so that it has just bold images with features and a download button.
- Move to a newer version of Wordpress for the rest of the site (blog and special pages), to simplify managing.
- Have the experimental versions linked from somewhere else than the forum, to encourage testing.
- Move to a newer version of punbb for the forum, to get better anti-spam extensions.
- Add subforums for "hardware and cameras" and "ideas, feature requests and brainstorming".
- Phase out the french blog. I don't have time to properly manage it.
- Re-implement the idea backlog in a more modern way.
- Start to implement a viewer for custom tools introduced in 0.8.18, in JavaScript. This would be the first step towards an online editor.

If you think something else should be on this list please chime in.
smile

988

(5 replies, posted in General)

Experimental version feedback needed ! wink
Beware of regressions and report anything suspicious. Do not assume the issue is known.

Installer: check 0.8.20 instead.

Warning
The file format for the preferences has completely changed. I have added a mechanism to convert from the old format to the new one, but please double check anything suspicious.
If you think the converter missed something or changed something, please report it, and ideally attach the follwing files (from the %appdata% directory): "Preferences.xml" and "Preferences.xml.bak" (this one is a backup of your old preferences).

Trackability
I'm sure you're having trouble focusing on this paragraph with the animation right below wink
The main improvement of this version is the introduction of a trackability framework that allows many tools to be tracked during playback.
To track a drawing, right click it and choose "Track path" from the context menu.
The following tools can be tracked: lines, arrows, cross markers, angles, individual spotlights, the magnifier, some of the custom tools introduced in the last release like the goniometer or the bikefit tool, and the coordinate system (more on that below).

http://www.kinovea.org/screencaps/0.8.x/tracking.gif

Usage of trackability
- Currently it's a playback-only feature, you can't save the data of the tracking. This will probably be worked on in of the two next releases (the existing "export to spreadsheet" machinery is not up to the job).
- It'll work mostly in the same context as the trajectory tool, so the optimal results are obtained with markers of round shape that have a high contrast with their immediate background (refer to this topic).
- Unlike the trajectory tool though, if the target is not found, the tracking is not aborted.
- The playback is slowed down to allow for the tracking algorithm to operate.
- If you modify the position of a tracked point manually, it counts as a re-targetting: all recorded data for this point is discarded as it starts tracking the new target.


New tools
Some new tools in the custom tools family:

http://www.kinovea.org/screencaps/0.8.x/newtools.0.8.19.png
- Angle to vertical: To measure an angle relatively to a vertical line.
- Angle to horizontal: To measure an angle relatively to an horizontal line.
- Horizontal distance: To measure the horizontal distance between two points that are not necessarily horizontally aligned in the first place.

These 3 new tools are trackable.

Integrated coordinate system
The coordinate system is now displayed and manipulated directly from the main window.
It also has optional goodies like tick marks, full grid, and you can change its color.

http://www.kinovea.org/screencaps/0.8.x/coordinatesystem.jpg

It's also trackable, so we can imagine exporting the trajectory of a point relatively to another moving point. (wrist vs elbow, ankle vs knee, etc.)


Spanish Manual !
Woosh ! Jose M. Palao has translated the entire manual to spanish, it's available online and in the software itself, a million thanks!

Bugs
Should have been killed: 273, 277, 287.

Joan.

989

(2 replies, posted in Français)

À plat comme si c'était sur le sol ? La perspective va changer avec chaque vidéo non ?
L'idéal serait la possibilité de pouvoir manipuler les dessins SVG librement comme la grille… mais c'est plus compliqué.
Si c'est dans un environnement avec toujours la même perspective, le mieux serait peut-être d'éditer directement le SVG dans Inkscape et lui donner la forme voulue.

In the specs here for example it says the max framerate at 1920x1080 is 15fps, and 30fps is for 1280x720. Maybe when you select 1920x1080 and 30fps it emulates it by duplicating the frames?
Can you try 1920x1080 @ 15 fps and see if there is still duplication ? Then 30fps at lower resolution.